pain tolerance

topic posted Sun, August 12, 2007 - 8:51 AM by 
So because of something mentioned in another tribe it made me think of a possible thing to discuss:

i know from my own experience that when Master and i don't play much i turn into a big wimp with a low pain tolerance. i think that in general my level is pretty high compared to many people but i have been known to take a LOT--so much that i had a reputation "oh, that's kelly, she can take that much."

So now that we don't play a lot for lack of time (and energy) i'm a HUGE wimp. Does anyone else have anything to say about their level of tolerance when it comes to pain--or other things maybe?

slave kelly
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  • Re: pain tolerance

    Sun, August 12, 2007 - 9:22 AM
    i think for me it's also an emotional thing. if i'm in a really good space before we even start, warm up or not, i feel i can tolerate (and enjoy) more pain. sometimes, when something is bothering me, or maybe i'm just not completely present for one reason or another, i feel like it is much harder to tolerate what Master gives me. i do tolerate it for Him but don't enjoy it as much as other times.
    • Re: pain tolerance

      Mon, August 13, 2007 - 10:58 AM
      I have found if I have not played in a while my tolerance will drop, but will return very quickly. I think with me it doesn’t necessarily have to do with my emotional state either. Seems like sometime I just need to be warmed up more then other times.
      • Re: pain tolerance

        Mon, August 13, 2007 - 11:03 AM
        I learned this from a Dom I play with. He tracks his sub's periods. It seems some women's pain tolerance is lower the week before her period. I found this to be true for me.
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    Re: pain tolerance

    Mon, August 13, 2007 - 11:09 AM
    I'm not a masochist and my owner and I only play once every few months. Still I've found my ability to take what she dishes out growing steadily over the years. It comes mostly to a focus on my breathing, on being in the moment, on properly visualizing and "holding" the pain and at the end of the day, if nothing else works, pure and simple surrender. But those processes and techniques have been years in the making.
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    Mon, August 13, 2007 - 11:38 AM
    I find that my pain tolerance is better when I am just a little bit (but not too much) worn out and tired. A lot of my struggle in pain processing is resistance to the pain and the experience. When I am tired I just don't care as much, and I lack the mental stamina to fight it! I'm much more able to surrender and let go, to be in the moment and be present.

    I'm also more likely to process pain well if I'm surrounded by loved ones and when I feel safe. Funny that this should be true for most of life, that hardships are easiest dealt with in the company of those you love. :)
  • Re: pain tolerance

    Tue, August 14, 2007 - 9:56 AM
    I can usually desire a lot of pain, if I get a good chance to warm up. Living with a lower back injury most of my life, I learned to ignore pain to be able to function daily. Being able to eroticize pain in the right places will allow me to take some fairly hard play. I like it and desire it in that state.
  • Re: pain tolerance

    Wed, August 15, 2007 - 2:25 PM
    my problem is some what similar to yours except i come to it from the opposite way. i am very new to bdsm even though i also am a collared slave and have been for eight years. All four of the previous Masters did not participate in bdsm, so my pain threshold is pretty low also. i believe that the more the body receives the more ways the body finds to accomodate the pain. i am not a masocist, having said that i believe that my body would find ways to accept what paid the Master would wish for me to experience. Think about the positive experiences of having to "ramp it back up" to the level you were at before. Be grateful for all things that you recieve, the good as well as the bad, because each will teach the slave in its own way.
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    Sun, August 26, 2007 - 1:43 PM
    When I've played a lot my pain tolerance is significantly higher. However, that can be remedied if someone takes enough time to warm up after a long time in between beatings.

    Yes, I've noticed a difference if I'm close to or on my period - during that time your body is more sensitive. And I learned that from a manicurist! She often had clients who were much more sensitive to getting fills done when they were close to that time of the month.

    Also for me personally, due to some childhood abuse, I have been very disconnected from my body. The more I've healed the more integrated I've become with my body - therefore, my pain tolerance decreased because I was actually in my body feeling stuff.
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      Mon, August 27, 2007 - 7:58 AM
      WOW that is a good point about healing from abuse, being in one's body and being able to take pain!
  • Re: pain tolerance

    Wed, September 5, 2007 - 12:21 PM
    OK pardon my strong first post here.....
    Tolerance is YOURS not the top/dom. If they think that you should endure/explore higher
    levels then this is something to which you BOTH agree.

    I am a top/dom of decades. I switch when I can.
    I have been with what have been called "pain sluts" and some called "sensation sluts".
    The difference is NONE. The difference is that with pain slut the sensation is described.
    They probably can be orgasm sluts too (another sensation).

    The type of sensation is something that is for you to limit.

    OK - off of my soap box. A person isn't a 'wimp' because they aren't prepared to experience
    a level of sensation that another wants. They are unique and therefore wonderful in their way.
    • Re: pain tolerance

      Tue, April 29, 2008 - 3:54 AM
      speaking as the marauding psychoanalyst, what you are doing is a pavlovian reprogramming trick where pain is pavlov
      reporgrammed as sexual turn on. That programming decays over time pretty quickly, and is best built by working slowly through things.

      Obviously each new start point in any form of intimacy moves slowly from gentle to rougher. So in order to get back your tolerance, work slowly up to it, perhaps over a few sessions.

      The other key is to maintain a strong psychological link between the pain and sexual turn on. One good way of doing this the other way around
      might be for instance to wait till the moment of orgasm, and then do something hot and extreme like a branding...
      Depending on how you want to approach it...
      doing something like that will dramatically increase your tolerance since its a shock of very intense pain at the right moment.


      There are a few main points to consider from the pavlovian perspective there.
      I think understanding pavlov is really a pretty good idea for anybody into this sort of thing... its for me the intellectual underpinning
      of it all.
  • Re: pain tolerance

    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 8:07 PM
    i have that same issue---
    And now that it has been a year since i played deep and hard, i doubt if i can widthstand a good firm handshake.
    Warm ups help, but it's playing regularly over time and having a partner that i will emotionally push MYSELF for that give me that edge and get me to places that scare the mice.

    BUT**** the whole point is not "how hard can he hit the bitch" but "How can he do things that make her squeal and happy and owie that make him happy and warm and evil?"...
    so, in that regard, i think that being a complete wimp just makes it easier on the tops!
    • Re: pain tolerance

      Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:53 PM
      "...BUT**** the whole point is not "how hard can he hit the bitch" but "How can he do things that make her squeal and happy and owie that make him happy and warm and evil?"... "

      Most of the time, I agree with you; mutuality is a consideration, even in some way between My Captain and I. However, under certain circumstances, my pain tolerance has been irrelevant; occasionally I find myself under My Captain's lash for punishment or for some other sort of teaching, certainly not for my own pleasure.

      Regarding pain tolerance itself, I think the time I most quickly reached my upper limits was when I was approaching a sinus infection I didn't know was coming on, and He had me upside-down while whipping me (for punishment, not pleasure). No endorphins whatsoever. I'm not sure if my body had just been diverting all its resources toward my immune system, but...owie! Anyone else have this sort of experience when coming down with a cold?
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    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 8:44 PM
    i've found that certain parts of me lose their ability to take the same amount of pain. But, over all my pain tolerance stays at the same point. i think this might have something to do with the fact that I have an extremely high pain tolerance and I set my limits below my tolerance level. Other wise bleeding would become all to interesting. My limit is set so that at the first show of blood we stop or move to a different part of my body, no permanent bodily harm thing.
    • Re: pain tolerance

      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 10:22 PM
      I hear from an old self proclaimed Dinosaur in the scene who many of us know well, that all it takes is enough floggings with a cat o' nine made of rope and eventually the tissue damage is such on the nerves of the back that pain can really not be felt for the most part anymore. This is from historical information, not for-fun scene stuff. That is one way to reach pain tolerance, though it would violate any of those no blood limits and such.
      • Re: pain tolerance

        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:26 PM
        interesting, tempting. but that does however violate the permanent damage portion of my limits. It would only be good for the first time, might as well start the bleeding.
        • Re: pain tolerance

          Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:20 PM
          Oh no, it takes a number of years to get to that point I believe. I think it was a British Navy thing. The older men who had been whipped enough times would intentionally get whipped to win a bet, because it didn't bother them anymore. Something along those lines.
          • Re: pain tolerance

            Sun, June 15, 2008 - 3:51 PM
            I have found in the past that sometimes I would feel more submissive to one person than to another, and when I feel more submissive I can take a lot more. The more submission, devotion, trust, and wanting to please, the more I can take. Other than that the more I am used the more I can take and vise versa. I also agree with the period theory.
            • Re: pain tolerance

              Sun, June 15, 2008 - 11:03 PM
              The frame of mind a person is in matters in a huge way, whether the cause one partner vs. another, or the situation. The most masochistic person I have ever played with has on a couple of occasions not been able to take much pain from me at all, whether that means enjoying the experience, or having composure about it. On those two occasions, there was emotional distress still present in her when we tried to play. This is one of the reasons why I may call red on a scene before it even starts, if I recognize that the person is willing but not feeling on top of things.

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